#197 Show Notes
Host: Patrick
Co-Hosts: Vic, John S.
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All Hosts and Co-Hosts must read “How to Host an Episode of Podcast 17” before coming on the show. The host needs to read chapter 1 but all hosts/cohosts must read Chapter 2 and 3. Remember to read the tips at the bottom of the agenda... they are a summary of the changes being enacted for this episode.
Intros and Heads Up!
Free range segment where you talk about what mods/games you have been playing. This is where you will mention new mods but don’t focus on them like media blitz If it doesn’t feel natural, drop it.
- William has finished his five part let’s play of BlackStar, you can watch him noclip through a few maps!
- William will be doing a let’s play of Anna this week... It has gotten a lot of press attention.
Podcast 17 News
- New experimental format
- Submit Discussion Topics
- Taking submissions for sidecasts.podcast17.com
- Contact thelastlambda or [email protected] for details
Follow-Up & Errata
From the Mouth of Valve
- Linux Blog: Steam'd Penguins.
- Dota 2 Blog: The song of war commences.
- Portal Blog: Wheatley in Spaaaaaaace!
- Abrash: Why You Won't See Hard AR Anytime Soon.
Releases and Updates
We are only going to be discussing and reviewing mods if majority of the hosts have played them. If you are struggling to say something or just making general statements about it, just move on.
Discussion Topics
Mention to submit community discussion topics to the google doc form
- Is there a significant enough playerbase on Linux OS’s to warrant Valve’s investment in a Steam & Source engine port? - William
- Does Phillip “own” his content, and do other content providers “own” their content? Did Phillip have the right to get upset over the content he prepared being uploaded from PlanetPhillip onto ModDB. Are mod developers able to be selective of what happens to their mod once it is posted on the internet? Full story below - William
- If the creator of a project changes leadership to someone else, do they still have the creative right to shutdown the project or retake control? -Patrick
- With Valve planning on offering software in the future, is it a step in the right direction considering their userbase? -Gerardo
- Are AAA game developers stuck in a “rut” because of outdated generation consoles? Recently in an article EA’s Frank Gibeau said “The introduction of new hardware from the big three is going to allow us to re-embark on a bunch of new IPs, because it's the better time to do it, because you can really explore new ideas and do different things” - William
- http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353554/interviews/exclusive-a-frank-chat-with-eas-gibeau/?page=2#top_banner
- http://www.computerandvideogames.com/358794/dishonored-designer-says-there-are-too-many-sequels/
- Will Source Film Festival '12 show that there is a market for independent films easily made in Source? -Gerardo
- Half-Life 2 Art Director Viktor Antonov’s suggestion: “Let’s do more science-fiction and more crazy worlds out there.” Does a mod need to incorporate ALL elements of design (gameplay, art, music, models... etc. ) or focus on 1 or 2 and excel at those to be successful?
- http://kotaku.com/5927467/half+life-2-art-director-laments-the-stale-state-of-modern-video-games -Tipped by Ade.
N3 D (Non-Noteworthy News & Discussion)
Put all former media blitz items here and other news that would not be good for discussion. This news will NOT be featured on the podcast and will just be used as a resource. If one of these topics can become a discussion move it to there and add the major point you will be discussing.
- HL2: Breen's Brainswash –Media Update #1.
- Fall of Saigon – July Update: Modeling Spotlight.
- Dino Crisis 1 Source – Generator 1 (Work in progress).
- Office Complex – July Update.
- Mission Improbable – Final stretch of development!
- http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/ww9ey/recent_activity_around_halflife_3_episode_3/ - Tipped by Svenare.
- "Miigga is looking for trusted betatesters for his upcomming mod, Baryonic Predicament. Here’s an early preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRAvHzozDaw " -Tipped by Ade.
Post-Show Play Session
Get a chance to play a game with the cast and crew of P17. Join us in our mumble server (85.236.100.59:2812) to talk with us after the show. Feel free to come back during the week and talk/play with other community members.
- Team Fortress 2 (server and gamemode tbd)
Tips to Remember!
- Discuss! It is okay to derail a little and get off topic, thats what makes it interesting instead of just sticking to a script.
- Please remember discussions are BACK and FORTH conversations, going around in a circle, asking people’s opinions, and then moving on is not discussing. Discussion may mean X talks for 5 minutes, Y rebuts for 3 minutes, X rebuts for another 5 minutes, and then Z interjects with his own opinion different from the previous two.
- Things to remember after the 15 minute mark no more news discussion. I’ll be timing it but if I am not there the host should be doing the same.
- Read the mandatory reading on how to debate and speak.
- Also this document will eventually go live on the rough agenda page so please do not screw it up or all editing privileges will be revoked.
2 Comments
@enough Linux users
Think of it this way: you pay the big effort of developing of the software once. Then you have a foothold in that community. It is worth it? I say yes. Will more games be ported to Linux? Again, I say yes, especially since most game developers already target multiple platforms: PCs, consoles, handhelds.
@PlanetPhillip shutdown
Now I feel sorry I didn’t take my time to reply on his page; I also didn’t discuss this properly with him last weekend (we were both under time constraints), so posting here makes me feel a bit shitty. Still, I do want to give my opinion.
PlanetPhillip.com can be viewed as a distribution channel. Yes, since he’s not distributing maps he made, I can understand why the guy on moddb.com thought that redistributing the maps is ok. However, there are several issues the moddb dude got it wrong:
– he can post the maps only if the map maker agreed to it
– even in that case, he cannot post the same package that Phillip did. It’s like Valve managed to get a deal from DICE and took the install kit of Battlefield 3 from Origin and upload it as it was. You don’t do that, you’d get your pants sued off. You get the product from the original developer and you distribute that instead.
So I definitely understand the point Phillip tried to make: you like the packages from PlanetPhillip.com? You think is OK to take the package from planetphillip.com, upload it and not credit the original source? Do you really want to be proven wrong by basically cutting off your access to that mentioned source of maps?
Now on to the future: I think incidents like that will happen again. In most cases this might happen because the person doing it is either too young to take notice or just doesn’t care about the effort needed to package and more importantly, to add THAT extra information: screenshots, reviews. So, I am quite certain that it will happen.
What can be done?
Well, simply make THAT extra info the main reason why people visit planetphillip.com. Outshine every other site that simply takes the packaged archive and just offers it for download. Since all sites will have the maps available (one package or the other) it’ll be everything else BUT the maps that will tilt the scale in the favor of one site over the other. Worst case scenario, the other sites will either join the competition or simply rip out those extra tidbits. Tidbits that are Phillip’s creation, and thus have their copyright owned by Phillip, with all the legal implications.
Hi guys, thanks for discussing my issue.
Just to clarify. I don’t claim to own copyright on the maps (not that you guys did). That’s clear. There’s nothing stopping people distributing the original files.
He stole my text and images – that’s copyright theft. Okay, I can live with that.
But the guy didn’t even have the courtesy to firstly ask and then credit my site for being the “source”.
That’s all I ever wanted – recognition for the effort I put in to get these maps online.